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	<title>Comments on: The Five Profiles of Sales Reps:  Who Wins?  Who Doesn’t?</title>
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		<title>By: Michelle Yuenger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle Yuenger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 20:22:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found this article and the follow up article really helpful and completely agree with the profiles and &#039;college major&#039; philosophy.  I don&#039; t care how much training you give some people, they are innately a &#039;relationship builder&#039; or &#039;challenger&#039; and you can&#039;t change that DNA.  I do agree with the other comments that you have to build relationships, etc to be successful but most leading personnel management phillosophies start with the premise that we are all hard wired for certain behaviors.  

This type of philosophy is similar to cusotmer segmentation.  As marketers,we use demographics and behavioral attitudes and ethnographics to drive our marketing.  Why wouldn&#039;t we do the same to allocate training and recruiting dollars to the right mix of employees.  

I for one will be looking at our staff to make sure we aren&#039;t over-indexed in certain areas.  thanks for the article!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found this article and the follow up article really helpful and completely agree with the profiles and &#8216;college major&#8217; philosophy.  I don&#8217; t care how much training you give some people, they are innately a &#8216;relationship builder&#8217; or &#8216;challenger&#8217; and you can&#8217;t change that DNA.  I do agree with the other comments that you have to build relationships, etc to be successful but most leading personnel management phillosophies start with the premise that we are all hard wired for certain behaviors.  </p>
<p>This type of philosophy is similar to cusotmer segmentation.  As marketers,we use demographics and behavioral attitudes and ethnographics to drive our marketing.  Why wouldn&#8217;t we do the same to allocate training and recruiting dollars to the right mix of employees.  </p>
<p>I for one will be looking at our staff to make sure we aren&#8217;t over-indexed in certain areas.  thanks for the article!</p>
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		<title>By: Jean Zonato</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jean Zonato</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 17:07:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry Joseph but I disagree, the psychology categorizes all types of people in groups, and independent of who created the classification the categories have the same statements or similar behaviors. So I believe that sales reps and all professionals’ categories are playing with their characters and temperament creating similar personalities, as you and me. All the best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Joseph but I disagree, the psychology categorizes all types of people in groups, and independent of who created the classification the categories have the same statements or similar behaviors. So I believe that sales reps and all professionals’ categories are playing with their characters and temperament creating similar personalities, as you and me. All the best.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Karlton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick Karlton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 17:05:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting point Joseph, and you&#039;re right, at the end of the day, sales reps are, to some degree, a blend of all of these profiles.

This work was specifically designed to help senior sales executives prioritize investments in skill development broadly across the sales force assuming a finite amount of training dollars.  In other words, what skill set improvement investments will give us the biggest bang for our buck.

Our guidance to members is to think about these profiles like potential college majors - yes, everyone takes the core curriculum (science, math, etc), but everyone specializes as well.  These five profiles represent the different sales rep &quot;majors&quot; that exist.

Now, as we dig into these profiles, the relationship builders that we found are, in a sense, a &quot;one trick pony&quot; - squarely focused on building strong personal relationships across the customer organization, being likeable and generous with their time.  This is very much a service mentality.

Regarding the challengers, the SEC&#039;s work does not suggest that these reps don&#039;t build strong relationships.  In fact, the high-performer challengers found in the sample were above average on all of the &quot;relationship building&quot; attributes.  They just don&#039;t hang their hat on those attributes like a relationship builder would...put another way, its not their major.

Instead, the challenger rep uses those relationships as a starting point to achieve a specific end.  This rep wins by creating and maintaining a certain amount of constructive tension across the sale.  They offer the customer unique perspectives - and communicate those perspectives with passion and precision in a way that draws the customer into a conversation.

It’s customer value (challenger approach) versus customer convenience (relationship builder).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting point Joseph, and you&#8217;re right, at the end of the day, sales reps are, to some degree, a blend of all of these profiles.</p>
<p>This work was specifically designed to help senior sales executives prioritize investments in skill development broadly across the sales force assuming a finite amount of training dollars.  In other words, what skill set improvement investments will give us the biggest bang for our buck.</p>
<p>Our guidance to members is to think about these profiles like potential college majors &#8211; yes, everyone takes the core curriculum (science, math, etc), but everyone specializes as well.  These five profiles represent the different sales rep &#8220;majors&#8221; that exist.</p>
<p>Now, as we dig into these profiles, the relationship builders that we found are, in a sense, a &#8220;one trick pony&#8221; &#8211; squarely focused on building strong personal relationships across the customer organization, being likeable and generous with their time.  This is very much a service mentality.</p>
<p>Regarding the challengers, the SEC&#8217;s work does not suggest that these reps don&#8217;t build strong relationships.  In fact, the high-performer challengers found in the sample were above average on all of the &#8220;relationship building&#8221; attributes.  They just don&#8217;t hang their hat on those attributes like a relationship builder would&#8230;put another way, its not their major.</p>
<p>Instead, the challenger rep uses those relationships as a starting point to achieve a specific end.  This rep wins by creating and maintaining a certain amount of constructive tension across the sale.  They offer the customer unique perspectives &#8211; and communicate those perspectives with passion and precision in a way that draws the customer into a conversation.</p>
<p>It’s customer value (challenger approach) versus customer convenience (relationship builder).</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph Professori</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joseph Professori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 15:24:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After reading your article, I suppose I am a bit taken back. I do see what your getting at, but relationships are the key to ultimate success.  I disagree that reps or sales persons are types, I have made a great career for myself by being both challenger,relationship builder and friend,  but in no way do I think that a sales professional is a one dimensional, single type. I know personally that I can pick up the phone and contact many customers/friends and produce a sale. There is a level of trust, respect and interpersonal connections that your types just don&#039;t cover. I disagree with your statements, but wish you well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After reading your article, I suppose I am a bit taken back. I do see what your getting at, but relationships are the key to ultimate success.  I disagree that reps or sales persons are types, I have made a great career for myself by being both challenger,relationship builder and friend,  but in no way do I think that a sales professional is a one dimensional, single type. I know personally that I can pick up the phone and contact many customers/friends and produce a sale. There is a level of trust, respect and interpersonal connections that your types just don&#8217;t cover. I disagree with your statements, but wish you well.</p>
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